Vernal Equinox Foods: The Jelly Bean Diet, Muskrat, and Beer Are on This Menu

Spring Food Traditions You'll Want to Eat
In this next episode of Family Tree, Food & Stories co-hosts Nancy May and Sylvia Lovely explore rather different and interesting springtime traditions, sharing some foods that you might never have heard about before.
- Have you ever wondered if jelly beans could be part of a balanced diet?
- Or are you curious about the story behind white asparagus that led to a carpool mishap?
- And what on earth do muskrats, alligators, and beer have to do with Lent?
Nancy and Sylvia delve into the world of spring foods, from dandelion wine and rhubarb pie to why how maple syrup marks the onset of spring. They will also introduce you to lesser-known delights like kumquats and loquats in the South, as well as ramps and poke sallets in Appalachia. Sylvia even shares her quirky method for enjoying jelly beans without going overboard – well, sort of!
You’ll also learn about the secret marketing tactic that drew more customers to a food chain during spring and uncover age-old traditions that make this season even more special.
Additional Key Points:
- How to savor jelly beans smartly with Sylvia's unique tips.
- How NOT to get fired from the carpool
- Weird Lent foods that will make question Nancy and Sylvia's sanity
- What to drink for 40 days and 40 nights and still be "blessed."
Tune in to this week's Family Tree, Food & Stories episode to learn and laugh with Nancy and Sylvia. They're guaranteed to inspire you to be a bit more creative with family mealtime.
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About Your Hosts: Nancy May and Sylvia Lovely are the powerhouse team behind Family Tree, Food & Stories, a member of The Food Stories Media Network, which celebrates the rich traditions and connections everyone has around food, friends, and family meals together. Nancy, an award-winning business leader, author, podcaster, and Sylvia, a visionary author, lawyer, and former CEO, combine their expertise to bring captivating stories rooted in history, heritage, and food. Together, they weave stories that blend history, tradition, and the love of food, where generations connect and share intriguing mealtime stories and kitchen foibles.
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Hello, everybody.
Speaker:Welcome to another episode of family tree food and stories.
Speaker:Sylvia, we're doing kind of an interesting show.
Speaker:Of course, I say every show is interesting
Speaker:You do.
Speaker:It's always interesting.
Speaker:Food is interesting.
Speaker:It's certainly delicious and there's always something new going on.
Speaker:But we're kind of heading into spring and this is now the dawn or the era
Speaker:or the season of the vernal equinox.
Speaker:Ooh, it sounds heavy duty, doesn't it?
Speaker:And you know, it's only in the Northern hemisphere.
Speaker:All those other folks down in the Southern have kind of the same thing,
Speaker:but just at a different time of year.
Speaker:But what's really cool is it's a time of renewal.
Speaker:It's a time of renewal, growth, and balancing.
Speaker:Could we use a little bit of that?
Speaker:Oh heck could I use about we talked about we talked about balance a
Speaker:little too much and sometimes oh geez well I'm not gonna go there because
Speaker:balance is not my Forte, shall we say,
Speaker:your thing.
Speaker:Yeah, I know.
Speaker:We do because we're so excited about food, though.
Speaker:Family, tree, food, and stories.
Speaker:Because what about food?
Speaker:Because we want to bring everything back to food because everything
Speaker:about food is what we are, right?
Speaker:We all eat.
Speaker:we all partake of food
Speaker:right, and what's the first thing you do in the morning when you get up?
Speaker:I don't know about you, but me, it's brew the coffee.
Speaker:So I guess you can call coffee a food.
Speaker:We'll call it something like
Speaker:Well, just like bourbon's a food, right?
Speaker:I'll start.
Speaker:Maybe I start the morning with a bourbon shot of
Speaker:Hey, there you go.
Speaker:Or some of that in your coffee.
Speaker:But yeah, so I think today what we're going to do is talk in
Speaker:general about the foods that happen.
Speaker:And then we're going to talk about more of that, Balance, renewal, and
Speaker:growth, and food's relationship to that.
Speaker:And we've talked, about that with several of our friends, Father Jim Sisco, who's
Speaker:also gonna be on the show at some point in the future, and talks about food.
Speaker:Cause it's all intertwined, historically, with the early days.
Speaker:And it later became, ancient days, with monks and religious figures,
Speaker:and all of that kind of stuff.
Speaker:But we're gonna have some fun with it.
Speaker:But first of all, I wanna tell ya.
Speaker:Candy is a food.
Speaker:Okay?
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:in the spring are my jam.
Speaker:Okay?
Speaker:I love them.
Speaker:They're so pretty.
Speaker:Think
Speaker:about them.
Speaker:They're
Speaker:I do.
Speaker:like them.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:They're like the colors, yeah.
Speaker:can I ask you, how do you eat your jelly beans?
Speaker:And there are two types of jelly beans in my book.
Speaker:There's the big old fashioned jelly beans with the thick sugar
Speaker:That's
Speaker:there's the jelly bellies, of course, that have every brand color name
Speaker:known to man and woman out there.
Speaker:None of those.
Speaker:I want those big, what do they call them, robin eggs or something?
Speaker:They look like robin eggs, only
Speaker:Oh, okay.
Speaker:The big old
Speaker:fashioned chunky ones,
Speaker:Yeah, I'll put in a plug for Brock's.
Speaker:I want my Brock's,
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:Do you bite them in half and, or do you suck on them or do you just
Speaker:like chew them till they're gone?
Speaker:You want to hear my diet plan?
Speaker:Cause I, you gotta be really careful, right?
Speaker:They're sugar.
Speaker:They're
Speaker:pure sugar.
Speaker:So I take a jelly bean and I suck on it.
Speaker:And I suck on it till I get all the sugar out.
Speaker:It's like gum, you know, get rid of all the sugar and then
Speaker:I chew it up and swallow it.
Speaker:But that, elongates my.
Speaker:Jelly bean fix.
Speaker:So I can buy a bag of jelly beans.
Speaker:Now the problem with the diet part of that is I start inching up on
Speaker:the number of them I do each day.
Speaker:And at first I'm with the orange and the yellows.
Speaker:And then I start eating the reds and the purples and the ones I don't like so much.
Speaker:But eventually, the reason I don't buy them is because I'll
Speaker:eat that whole bag probably within
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:Oh my God.
Speaker:Absolutely.
Speaker:And they always follow or well, they always fell to the
Speaker:bottom of the Easter egg basket
Speaker:when
Speaker:you're a
Speaker:oh yeah, oh yeah, I love that and you go through the grass and
Speaker:you find them and sometimes a month later you find one or two,
Speaker:And they're kind of sticky, but you eat them anyway.
Speaker:you eat them anyway.
Speaker:But there's a lot of other foods up north that are going
Speaker:on and some down south with you.
Speaker:so up north in Kentucky.
Speaker:The southern part of the north.
Speaker:you have, of course, eggs.
Speaker:Eggs are always, they're on every list, right?
Speaker:Because they're round and they mean renewal and all that kind
Speaker:of stuff, So there's the eggs.
Speaker:But we have strawberries.
Speaker:the delicate kinds of things, right?
Speaker:In the spring.
Speaker:Oh, I have to ask you about strawberries.
Speaker:Just a second.
Speaker:Have you ever seen a white strawberry?
Speaker:in the grocery
Speaker:Those are new.
Speaker:Have you ever had one?
Speaker:No, they don't look appetizing.
Speaker:No, they look kind of,
Speaker:they look like they're anemic.
Speaker:Ha ha ha.
Speaker:I don't want to eat an unhealthy strawberry.
Speaker:I want the red strawberry that's about ready to get fuzzy, you
Speaker:Oh, yeah.
Speaker:Oh, yeah.
Speaker:But you told me once about white asparagus,
Speaker:how they, how they do that.
Speaker:they cover up the green part so that
Speaker:So we, we learned this when we were in France one year and white
Speaker:asparagus, it was about, it was April and white asparagus grows just like
Speaker:regular asparagus, but what they do is they mound straw or hay around
Speaker:it so that it doesn't get the light.
Speaker:So yes, I guess it is.
Speaker:We, instead of white asparagus, we should just call it anemic
Speaker:I know.
Speaker:It almost doesn't sound good.
Speaker:I do have an asparagus story, though.
Speaker:You know, asparagus can get you fired.
Speaker:Oh,
Speaker:me explain.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So here I am starting out my legal career and I had to drive to Frankfort,
Speaker:Frankfort, Kentucky is about 45 minutes from Lexington where I live.
Speaker:Everybody lives in Lexington that works in state government or wherever.
Speaker:So I was an assistant attorney general.
Speaker:So I had a carpool.
Speaker:I was accepted into a carpool and that was a big deal.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:So there's like five of us in this carpool.
Speaker:And we got a vacancy one day.
Speaker:So we hired another carpool member.
Speaker:Now it cost no money.
Speaker:It was just a ride back and forth.
Speaker:And there were rules to the ride.
Speaker:You didn't chit chat, you didn't do all those things.
Speaker:Well, she was a chit chatter.
Speaker:And in the spring, one spring day, Well, we have to stop and get some asparagus.
Speaker:It was a big farm on the left as we drove out of town.
Speaker:We just have to stop.
Speaker:And then I tell you how I make my asparagus.
Speaker:Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Speaker:And we're all stone silent.
Speaker:We get back to Lexington.
Speaker:We fired her from the carpool for talking about asparagus.
Speaker:The food gods will come after me
Speaker:for sure.
Speaker:For sure.
Speaker:Yeah, I got it.
Speaker:Childs is going to come back and
Speaker:off with
Speaker:your
Speaker:and
Speaker:haunt me.
Speaker:We're like, we're not stopping for asparagus.
Speaker:Anyway, and Kentucky, that's one of the hot items, leafy greens, citrus.
Speaker:Well, it grows all the time down there, doesn't it?
Speaker:Well, it does, but it doesn't.
Speaker:I haven't figured out when the true citrus picking season is.
Speaker:But the interesting thing is, when you, could drive along the country
Speaker:roads, and you see Miles and miles of
Speaker:these citrus trees and the grapefruit and the oranges, you know, it's
Speaker:illegal to even go in there and pick one of a, of a field of, or a grove,
Speaker:I guess an orange grove that's fallow.
Speaker:If there's a wild one, cause there are a lot of fellow ones because here
Speaker:in the area where we were, we are, we're in Brooksville and not too far
Speaker:from Indian Grove, or I think it's called Indian Grove, but the whole
Speaker:citrus area that, got hit by The snows and the ice for so well, not
Speaker:snow, but it was ice for so many years.
Speaker:And the tangerine guys that were growing all these things just decided we can't
Speaker:afford to bring them back after the third or fourth year of being wiped out with the
Speaker:frost.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:But, no, even if there's a, one that's left in a field and abandoned
Speaker:it's considered illegal to go,
Speaker:Wow.
Speaker:Can I tell you an orange story?
Speaker:I either, although I am tempted to go pick one.
Speaker:Of course.
Speaker:We, first year we were in Florida, oh, I was in college.
Speaker:I went to Fuller Southern.
Speaker:And we rented.
Speaker:The home on the lake.
Speaker:It was beautiful.
Speaker:It was a cottage that owned to the head of the Donald Duck orange juice factory.
Speaker:I didn't know that there was a Donald Duck orange juice factory.
Speaker:I didn't know that ducks could
Speaker:drink orange juice.
Speaker:anyway, that's my claim to fame on citrus.
Speaker:But I did want to say a word or two about ramps and poke salad.
Speaker:Please.
Speaker:I come from a heritage and a culture where people went into
Speaker:the hillsides and picked stuff.
Speaker:Had sassafras tea and always wondered where they'd get the sassafras.
Speaker:Well, they'd go into the hillside and they'd pick it.
Speaker:And they'd pick grasses Well, ramps is that kind of onion
Speaker:slash garlic, green leaves.
Speaker:It looks kind of onion like.
Speaker:oh, is that what it's got like a curly top on it?
Speaker:Oh, so it's like a wild garlic.
Speaker:yeah, and you go out and you come in and you, and it comes out only in the spring.
Speaker:And I used to wonder, ramps, that just sounds like a interstate ramp, right?
Speaker:It
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:It looks like something to do with tarmac
Speaker:I'm sorry, yeah.
Speaker:And then you have poke salad.
Speaker:Now, a misnomer is a lot of people say poke salad.
Speaker:It's salad, S A L L E T. For all who want to know.
Speaker:It is not salad.
Speaker:It's green, cooked greens.
Speaker:And again, poke is something you go out and you pick.
Speaker:And, my favorite new song and it's in my head is poke salad Annie.
Speaker:Look it up.
Speaker:we'll put a link to that when in the show notes, poke salad.
Speaker:I listened to it.
Speaker:It's really pretty amusing.
Speaker:it is, it's a fun country song.
Speaker:And, they have festivals here in the state, because it's
Speaker:an Appalachian kind of thing.
Speaker:And that song is about Louisiana.
Speaker:But similar kinds of, say, you may even have them in Florida.
Speaker:I don't know.
Speaker:I can hear Dolly Parton singing that one.
Speaker:I'm sure
Speaker:with her big hair and her big everything else,
Speaker:know.
Speaker:But our tiny waist, how does she do that?
Speaker:she's not eating jelly beans for sure.
Speaker:No.
Speaker:But you said she said somewhere that she eats all the time
Speaker:when she's not on camera.
Speaker:Oh, I need to know what her diet is
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So, so what about South?
Speaker:What about in the South?
Speaker:Y'all know Florida has seasons.
Speaker:Yeah, we're learning about a few things down south here, but one of the things
Speaker:that really fascinated me about the springtime in the south here is the
Speaker:popularity of loquats and kumquats.
Speaker:Oh,
Speaker:oh
Speaker:most people don't know what a kumquat is, and we didn't know what
Speaker:a loquat was when we got down here.
Speaker:my mom loved kumquats as a kid,
Speaker:so a
Speaker:qua is something, it's like a large.
Speaker:About the size of a large grape, like one of those giant grapes, but it's
Speaker:kind of oval It's a type of citrus and you can eat the whole thing.
Speaker:You just pop the whole thing in your mouth.
Speaker:Like you would a grape,
Speaker:What color is it?
Speaker:It's orange.
Speaker:Oh,
Speaker:It's orange, like an orange.
Speaker:So it's a citrus and you can, they have kumquat festivals and we
Speaker:bought some kumquat wine ones at a festival, which we didn't open.
Speaker:We gave away just
Speaker:amazing what they make wine out of, you know?
Speaker:I
Speaker:Oh, they make really disgusting wine here in
Speaker:I'm sorry for anybody who's, I don't want to say a wino in Florida, but
Speaker:well, then don't come to Florida because the wine really stinks.
Speaker:It's sticky and sweet.
Speaker:Everybody down here likes that.
Speaker:muscadet grape, that's the sweet kinds of more sugar, the better it's like,
Speaker:Oh no, give me the dark, dry red stuff.
Speaker:I'm, I'm
Speaker:good for that.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Anyway.
Speaker:So that's the kumquat.
Speaker:You can eat the whole thing.
Speaker:And the loquat is similar but it's a little sweeter and it has seeds.
Speaker:The kumquat does not have seeds.
Speaker:I'm for that.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And you eat them the same
Speaker:loquat looks the same though.
Speaker:Loquat looks very much the same.
Speaker:It's a little larger, but it has a slightly sweeter taste.
Speaker:It's I'd say it's probably a cross between and taste ways
Speaker:between an orange and a lime
Speaker:or a lemon.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So that's that bitterness.
Speaker:I wonder if one of them was the originator and the other
Speaker:is GMO modified or something.
Speaker:Or
Speaker:apparently they both started out of China and Japan.
Speaker:Well, maybe they're all GMO in China.
Speaker:So
Speaker:Yeah, well, there is that theory too.
Speaker:We'll have to
Speaker:take that
Speaker:GMO.
Speaker:show.
Speaker:Foods from China that are not like normal or born of nature.
Speaker:So, have you had dandelion pie lately?
Speaker:No, I have not had dandelion pie, but springtime of course is dandelions.
Speaker:I don't see too many of them down here, but we see a lot of
Speaker:wildflowers on the side of the road, which are really beautiful.
Speaker:But my husband grew up in New Rochelle, New York.
Speaker:Bronx and New Rochelle.
Speaker:And one year his dad decided he wanted to make dandelion wine.
Speaker:So he had all his kids go out and pick all the entire, his front
Speaker:yard apparently was super green and beautiful without dandelions.
Speaker:They had to get something like five gallons of dandelion heads.
Speaker:And I said, five gallons of dandelions head doesn't sound like a lot.
Speaker:Bob the other day was saying, Oh, it's a lot.
Speaker:So I think not only his yard, but probably the entire neighborhood was
Speaker:cleaned out.
Speaker:you.
Speaker:Exactly.
Speaker:They made wine.
Speaker:My, father in law apparently did not make dandelion wine again once was enough.
Speaker:Oh, and springtime rhubarb, right?
Speaker:Oh, oh, rhubarb in Florida.
Speaker:Well, they don't have, blue bar and Far Blue, blue Barber . I think that's
Speaker:gonna be a new, a new vegetable, a blue
Speaker:bar.
Speaker:been drinking some dandelion wine,
Speaker:I think so this hour of the morning
Speaker:Well, I know rhubarb is in Northern Minnesota cause my son
Speaker:makes rhubarb pie all the time.
Speaker:right rhubarb and strawberry pie with lots of sugar.
Speaker:And my grandmother is, you know, made rhubarb wine.
Speaker:And that was, the last batch of grandma's wine we drank To
Speaker:celebrate Bob and my engagement.
Speaker:And that was
Speaker:30, well, 37, 36 years ago,
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So you
Speaker:a time ago.
Speaker:I'm
Speaker:drank it all
Speaker:I think you've been drinking at the rhubarb wine a little bit if
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I'll have a little in my coffee.
Speaker:So that's it on dandelions.
Speaker:And let's
Speaker:see
Speaker:maple syrup maple syrup is mentioned a lot as a spring thing is
Speaker:Oh, maple syrup.
Speaker:So up north, that's a big sign of springtime in the woods.
Speaker:You'll see these, well, they used to put taps on the trees,
Speaker:you know, the little metal
Speaker:taps and, and the galvanized buckets.
Speaker:You don't see those as much anymore.
Speaker:Maple syrup sugaring, or the maple syrup collection has
Speaker:gotten a little bit more modern.
Speaker:And what you'll see is these long They almost look like, medical
Speaker:hoses that go around all the trees and they'll thread in and out.
Speaker:It actually looks like it probably could be some sort of labor and for
Speaker:some murder mystery, quite frankly, like
Speaker:Ah Yeah,
Speaker:going to poof.
Speaker:But anyway, so they're all around the trees and they all flow into one big
Speaker:bucket now or several big buckets.
Speaker:But the springtime is when the sap starts to thaw as it gets warm
Speaker:in the springtime in the, in the days, the sap will start to flow.
Speaker:So they starved the trees.
Speaker:They take the tree food.
Speaker:Does that hurt the trees?
Speaker:No, because they
Speaker:not.
Speaker:No, if so, and they're only the sugar maple trees, but it takes forever.
Speaker:Like it takes something like 20 gallons to make a couple of cups.
Speaker:I don't know the exact percentages, but it's takes a lot.
Speaker:One question I have about maple syrup, because they're starting
Speaker:to grow it some in Kentucky.
Speaker:I always thought of it as Vermont and New England, but apparently
Speaker:it's not exclusively there.
Speaker:I don't remember that I know what the perfect climate for it is.
Speaker:Well, it has to freeze.
Speaker:You have to freeze in the wintertime, which you get a lot of, you've gotten a
Speaker:lot of frost and cold this winter and you need the maple sugar tree, which is the,
Speaker:the, the sugar maple is really what it is.
Speaker:And they're bright, brilliant yellow trees in the fall when they, they're
Speaker:Uh huh.
Speaker:Uh huh.
Speaker:Well, it's kind of interesting because you know that come up with flavors all
Speaker:the time Like pumpkin in the fall kind of thing, people are kind of getting
Speaker:tired of it But maple syrup is emerging as a flavoring and as a substitute
Speaker:like my daughter in law can't eat sugar So I'll make like cornbread.
Speaker:There's the New York Times had a cornbread recipe using maple
Speaker:syrup And it's delicious, and you don't use any sugar, cane sugar.
Speaker:Maple syrup is pretty sugar intensive.
Speaker:Know.
Speaker:it works, okay.
Speaker:Did you have to use a lot of it?
Speaker:I think it's about, half a cup, third of a cup, something like that.
Speaker:And so, she can tolerate it, whereas she really can't tolerate the cane sugar.
Speaker:But then the cane sugar may be, yeah, may be so super processed, right?
Speaker:that's another thing.
Speaker:that's something we need to take up in another show, is the processing of flour
Speaker:here, as opposed to places like Europe.
Speaker:Is it the same?
Speaker:And people say it's not.
Speaker:But anyway, that gets us a little bit far afield.
Speaker:But
Speaker:a teaser for down the road.
Speaker:do we need to take a break?
Speaker:We do need to take a break.
Speaker:I'm going to.
Speaker:Put some maple syrup in my coffee, maybe, and we'll take a break.
Speaker:Or maybe some dandelion wine
Speaker:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker:We'll see you soon.
Speaker:Hang tight.
Speaker:There's a lot more in store.
Speaker:well, Sylvia, we just talked about maple syrup
Speaker:and sugar, but with that, we're getting into the whole
Speaker:idea of renewal and balance.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:right.
Speaker:I don't know how much balance I can do when I've got too much sugar in my butt,
Speaker:But, you I think one of the things that, we read about, balance renewal and growth
Speaker:and food and its relationship to food is, it's a lot about mindful eating,
Speaker:When I gain weight and I gain weight easily is when I'm not being mindful.
Speaker:When I just pick up a bag of chips or, what you do gain as you grow older is I
Speaker:know immediately I can taste the sugar.
Speaker:That's what makes things taste so good, right?
Speaker:The junk food or the, what they call, the so called, altered process.
Speaker:And I can tell that, so I know that I'm not being mindful.
Speaker:And then there's also just trying to eat more healthy, and that's a
Speaker:challenge, because as you well know, one, one day coffee's bad for you, the
Speaker:next day, so it's, it's a moderation, that's the balance part, right?
Speaker:I'm going to blame it on the manufacturers who do these studies,
Speaker:like the corn popping manufacturers have now decided that popcorn is good for
Speaker:you.
Speaker:And you should eat that with butter.
Speaker:Well, yes, I can mindfully eat a whole lot of popcorn with butter.
Speaker:Mm hmm.
Speaker:Me too, mindfully.
Speaker:I'm driven to
Speaker:eat popcorn
Speaker:like that skinny pop popcorn is not so skinny.
Speaker:Yeah, what's happening to my butt?
Speaker:It's, growing!
Speaker:it's more than sugar.
Speaker:It's like
Speaker:popping corn, it's just growing bigger, you
Speaker:yeah, I think the popcorn pops in my body,
Speaker:But you know, a lot of this begins in the religious world, in the ancients,
Speaker:and a lot of it in the Catholic Church, and it has since grown secular.
Speaker:like for instance, Mardi Gras.
Speaker:Mardi Gras kind of Launches everything with the Mardi Gras parades and all of
Speaker:that stuff, and it falls, in early March.
Speaker:And this, in this case, it was, March 5th, 4th, 4th, because Lent.
Speaker:See, you eat, drink, and be merry on Fat Tuesday.
Speaker:That's what that means.
Speaker:And then the next day, you go skinny.
Speaker:Hey, maybe it pays to be religious.
Speaker:I could use a little skinny.
Speaker:yeah, I think we should call it, a binge party as opposed to Mardi Gras,
Speaker:A binge,
Speaker:party.
Speaker:Well, and what about you?
Speaker:Do you ever eat, The King Cake.
Speaker:They sell hundreds of King Cakes here.
Speaker:No, I have never eaten a king cake, but, we didn't grow up Catholic.
Speaker:my mom was Episcopal, and then dad He always called himself a back,
Speaker:to you Congregationalist, but as kids, we didn't do that stuff,
Speaker:but our Catholic friends did.
Speaker:So but hot cross buns, oh my god.
Speaker:hot cross buns.
Speaker:yeah.
Speaker:yeah, yeah.
Speaker:Perfect.
Speaker:Oh, carbs.
Speaker:icing off the top
Speaker:and unfortunately then I have to eat the hot cross bun or the
Speaker:of course.
Speaker:You've ruined it, right?
Speaker:You've ruined it.
Speaker:You've got to do that.
Speaker:And, so the king cake is good.
Speaker:They take the baby Jesus out for the most part now.
Speaker:It was making dentists and lawyers make a lot of money.
Speaker:So anyway, they're packaging it separately.
Speaker:I have to ask you, is it sacrilegious to cook baby Jesus?
Speaker:I know it's like kind of weird.
Speaker:kind of gross.
Speaker:Right?
Speaker:Hey, can I have fun for a minute?
Speaker:Will you give me a minute to have fun?
Speaker:Okay, I'm going to read like I'm a pharmaceutical.
Speaker:Salesperson,
Speaker:and you may love the fine, fine, print.
Speaker:gigantic.
Speaker:So, Fat Tuesday is 47 days before Easter, which is on April 20th, which is the
Speaker:first Sunday after the full moon that occurs on or after the vernal equinox.
Speaker:Lent is the day after Mardi Gras and lasts for 40 days.
Speaker:40 is a big deal in the Bible.
Speaker:Ark, remember,
Speaker:40
Speaker:days?
Speaker:a breath.
Speaker:Yes, 40 days and 40 nights.
Speaker:I am exhausted already.
Speaker:That, that's fine print, okay?
Speaker:But, do you know some unusual things about lent food?
Speaker:Let's there, okay?
Speaker:This will our
Speaker:Well, since, since I didn't practice Lent very well, obviously,
Speaker:all about balance.
Speaker:We need to look back on history, right?
Speaker:History and traditions, that's what we're all about.
Speaker:That created what we do today.
Speaker:In creating our balance, our growth, our renewal, okay?
Speaker:I'll make that argument.
Speaker:you give up something.
Speaker:during Lent, and that's interesting, but here's some unusual things.
Speaker:Do you know that monks in Germany drank only beer for 40 days in
Speaker:Lent?
Speaker:I should have been a
Speaker:Yeah, and I, don't know if Catholic Church built hospitals for liver failure.
Speaker:I don't know, but no.
Speaker:don't know.
Speaker:Well, I, don't think they allow women to be monks, so maybe
Speaker:I would just be a monkette.
Speaker:I don't know.
Speaker:Uh, low, yeah, no, I don't think that fits you.
Speaker:It was very nutritious, and so they just drank this beer that
Speaker:was not all that super alcoholic.
Speaker:Hmm.
Speaker:So,
Speaker:took the fun out of it.
Speaker:I don't believe that part.
Speaker:I know, monks, yeah, I know, and also our dear friends, the nuns.
Speaker:Uh, how about pretzels?
Speaker:Pretzels.
Speaker:Oh, I know about the pretzels.
Speaker:you know, they have a little crust across their chest.
Speaker:Weren't they supposed to be signs of people praying when
Speaker:you made them cross them over?
Speaker:So Maybe I could pray a lot over
Speaker:yeah, and they are, you know, they're carbs, I guess, but they're
Speaker:also very, very compacted carbs.
Speaker:So I think they're okay for us.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:They're not like bread, bread.
Speaker:Oh, it's my weakness.
Speaker:I know, but I have a pretzel story.
Speaker:So we used to in New York where we grew up, the pretzels on the stands on
Speaker:the roadside were really delicious, of course, but a couple of years ago, I
Speaker:went to a conference in Germany and it was in Berlin and for breakfast, they
Speaker:offered these most amazing soft pretzels.
Speaker:Oh,
Speaker:about pretzels for breakfast.
Speaker:I have to tell you that was that, but those were the best pretzels
Speaker:I have ever had to this day.
Speaker:So
Speaker:the German pretzels, they were just amazing.
Speaker:there were the soft squishy ones, but there's something in the
Speaker:dough, however they made them that were rich and delicious.
Speaker:Like the ones as kids in Roosevelt field that you would get.
Speaker:at the hot dog stand really, or the pretzel stand just were kind
Speaker:of, God, they remind me of like cardboard compared to the, the rich
Speaker:buttery ones in Germany that were
Speaker:oh man, huh.
Speaker:yum.
Speaker:I'll have to go to Germany.
Speaker:I love that.
Speaker:Although not right now.
Speaker:trying to take off seven pounds.
Speaker:hey, you want to hear about muskrat?
Speaker:Oh, muskrat, they have a stinky muskrats,
Speaker:oh, they are.
Speaker:They look like little tiny, porcupines.
Speaker:They kind of have fur that sticks up.
Speaker:So try baked muskrat with apple butter.
Speaker:That's a recipe I found.
Speaker:I didn't collect it.
Speaker:Okay, so this is why the muskrat is important.
Speaker:And by the way, they're not the only meat that is given sort of some
Speaker:dispensation that Catholics can eat, even though they are kind of meat.
Speaker:I'll tell you about those in a minute, but let me tell you about muskrats.
Speaker:In Michigan, in the 1800s, Father Richard gave dispensation to French
Speaker:Canadian, actually, French fur trappers, because fish was hard to come by.
Speaker:So he said, Try some baked muskrat with apple butter and that's what,
Speaker:and it, it persists till today, they have like festivals and stuff.
Speaker:Ah,
Speaker:must have
Speaker:ouch,
Speaker:at some point when somebody said bake a
Speaker:muskrat, first,
Speaker:plentiful and there's
Speaker:well, maybe it was a way to, uh, to rid themselves of like muskrat.
Speaker:I think of
Speaker:I know rat.
Speaker:I do too.
Speaker:And I think they're in that kind of family.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:But you know what?
Speaker:Here down in your area, alligator is sometimes said to be exempted.
Speaker:Oh,
Speaker:Alligator.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Alligator.
Speaker:and yeah, well, they're in the water, right?
Speaker:And beavers, beavers also are sometimes
Speaker:exempted.
Speaker:pythons down here now too.
Speaker:That's a little further south of us.
Speaker:maybe python meat works as
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I think maybe it has to be something relationship to the water.
Speaker:Because muskrats live kind of in the water.
Speaker:Well, you know, you can eat fish.
Speaker:So who knows?
Speaker:Anyway,
Speaker:Okay, the Phil A of fish.
Speaker:That was a McDonald's.
Speaker:That's still on the menu at McDonald's, right?
Speaker:And in 1962, the fillet of, fillo, it's F I L L E T O, fish, kind
Speaker:of a Irish kind of sound, right?
Speaker:It was invented because Catholics didn't eat meat on Friday, and they
Speaker:were losing, in a particular McDonald's franchise, they were losing their, They
Speaker:were, nobody was buying burgers, and so, so they invented the fish sandwich.
Speaker:And now almost everywhere, a fish sandwich on Friday is almost on every menu
Speaker:that's interesting.
Speaker:So, have you ever seen those fish that are on, I guess it was like
Speaker:a Bob opedic kind of thing I think that plastic fish that was on a
Speaker:wall plaque that used to sing.
Speaker:Give me that fish.
Speaker:Give me that fillet of fish.
Speaker:Like, give me that fish, give me a fish.
Speaker:I don't know how the song was, but I have to think it was hysterical.
Speaker:The talking fish that would bounce off the side of the plaque.
Speaker:Like, Oh my God.
Speaker:I think that's funny.
Speaker:So every time I think of that, I think of McDonald's fillet of fish.
Speaker:yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And now maybe they'll invent someday, maybe a filet, uh, muskrat.
Speaker:or fillet alligator, fillet of
Speaker:Anyway.
Speaker:Hey, to come back to our growth, balance, and renewal.
Speaker:people find spiritual growth in all kinds of ways through food.
Speaker:I love.
Speaker:Going, if I'm feeling really tired and down, I love going to a grocery
Speaker:store and looking through the produce and that's pretty, it's colorful.
Speaker:I mean, there's so many people who do the click it thing and
Speaker:don't get their food, directly.
Speaker:And, I just, we find spiritual growth in food in many ways, don't we?
Speaker:Well, and I think that's true of farmer's markets for sure.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:And the fresh, pro fresh produce.
Speaker:I don't enjoy grocery shopping that much, but I certainly do.
Speaker:when I'm feeling trapped, just going out to the grocery store and
Speaker:I always buy more than I should.
Speaker:I go for the
Speaker:milk and I come back with, Oh, but there was a bogo.
Speaker:I
Speaker:I love bargains.
Speaker:That's growth for
Speaker:really did need five cans of beans or 10 cans of beans for a dollar.
Speaker:What am I going to do?
Speaker:I'm going to eat a lot of beans.
Speaker:Don't tell me what I'm going to do afterwards, but I'm
Speaker:going to eat the beans.
Speaker:Well, and tell me how to solve this problem.
Speaker:we're ipne nesters.
Speaker:And I'm trying to learn to cook since we closed our restaurant,
Speaker:I'm trying to cook more.
Speaker:And I'm finding it really challenging because I make, like
Speaker:I made tuna fish salad yesterday.
Speaker:And now I have tons of it because the recipes, and it's not as good
Speaker:a science as you might think to cut back on the recipe, to make it only
Speaker:for two people, it's not as good.
Speaker:So I just went ahead and I made four of those little packets of tuna fish.
Speaker:And it just.
Speaker:it's too much.
Speaker:I'll never, I shouldn't eat it.
Speaker:Let me say that.
Speaker:It has mayo in it, right?
Speaker:But in
Speaker:Well, there's only the two of us as well.
Speaker:So I'll make a lot of it, but I'll add lots of fruit to it.
Speaker:So chopped up grapes are great and tuna fish.
Speaker:So you don't need as much tuna.
Speaker:And then that way you've got a little sweetness in there too,
Speaker:or little shredded apple pieces,
Speaker:lots of celery and onions.
Speaker:Uh, the garlic, I don't necessarily put garlic in there, but certainly pepper just
Speaker:to make it a little bit more spicy and
Speaker:maybe that's it I don't know but I can't eat that much and I don't think
Speaker:it freezes well I'm a big freeze person.
Speaker:Oh yeah.
Speaker:So if it goes in the freezer, we did a show on, on the refrigeration
Speaker:thing, it goes in the freezer.
Speaker:It's not coming out in my
Speaker:really I'm a
Speaker:big freezer Queen.
Speaker:Yeah,
Speaker:anyway
Speaker:so that's, that's what I would do for empty, nesters, but, it's tough.
Speaker:So make less protein and add more veggies to it and see what
Speaker:I know.
Speaker:Or fruit.
Speaker:That's a good idea.
Speaker:Grapes.
Speaker:Grapes are good in chicken salad, too.
Speaker:Yay.
Speaker:delicious grapes and nuts, grapes and nuts, and certainly in there.
Speaker:So the time of spring is a balance renewal.
Speaker:Everything's fresh and it's, I'm probably going back on my spring diet again.
Speaker:Yeah, when you have to start, when you have to start getting
Speaker:in your clothing again.
Speaker:right?
Speaker:And you have to show a little bit more of yourself.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:Time, time to hide the extra roll that I found.
Speaker:yeah.
Speaker:Uh, uh.
Speaker:this has been a great time.
Speaker:And I love this time of year more than probably any time of
Speaker:year, but I do like the fall too.
Speaker:But there's something wonderful about seeing all the little spring
Speaker:green leaves on a tree pop out.
Speaker:And I've often said that spring green is my favorite color.
Speaker:Next to yellow, which I think is also spring.
Speaker:So I think it's time to put this one to bed.
Speaker:What do you
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I think let's go out and soak up some of that sunshine.
Speaker:You get that more than I do.
Speaker:And it's been beautiful lately.
Speaker:So, yeah.
Speaker:I'm going to go out and plant some herbs and, see what we can
Speaker:come up with next time around.
Speaker:We'll see you soon.
Speaker:And, we'll hear you soon.
Speaker:Take care.
Speaker:Bye bye.